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| Name | RAMSAY – Robert |
|---|---|
| Regiment (s) | Royal Artillery 9th Battalion |
| Regiment Number (s) | – |
| Date/Age/Place/Trade or Profession at Attestation | 22nd February 1825 / 18 years / Athlone Roscommon Ireland Labourer |
| Description – Height Complexion/Eyes/Hair/Scars | 5 Ft 8½ in Brown / Black / Dark / None |
| Overseas Service/Duration | Gibraltar – 7 years 11 months West Indies – 4 years 1 month |
| Length of Service | 22 years 194 days |
| Rank/Date/Place of Discharge | Sergeant / 13th July 1847 / Woolwich Kent England |
| Campaign Medals | None |
| Intended Residence at Discharge | Deptford Kent England |
| Pension Districts | 1847 Deptford 1851 Western Australia |
| Pension Paid | 1/10d per diem |
| Date of Departure and Place England or Ireland | 16th July 1851 Plymouth England |
| Ship and Date of Arrival Western Australia | MINDEN 14th October 1851 |
| Date/Place of Birth | c1807 Kiltown Roscommon Ireland |
| Date/Place of Baptism | Not yet known |
| Father Date/Place of Birth | RAMSEY William C 1778 |
| Mother Date/Place of Birth Marriage | WHITE Janet C 1779 |
| Siblings | Not yet known |
| 1st Wife Date of Birth or Baptism | WILSON Mary Jane c 1813 Ireland |
| Date/Place of Marriage | 1833 Armagh Ireland |
| Children by 1st Wife | Robert B c1836 Gibraltar D Lost at sea 27 January 1879 off NW coast in the Rosette William B c1838 Gibraltar M KILLION Elizabeth 1865 McLeay River, Kempsey New South Wales D 24 October 1927 Kempsey bur West Kempsey Cemetery James George B c1841 Gibraltar M BARNES Mary 17 September 1861, Fremantle Congregational Chapel D 17th January 1883 Adelaide, South Australia See further information John B c1843 Woolwich, Kent England M BARR Elizabeth South Melbourne Vic D 17 February 1927 age 84 Buried Box hill Cemetery Phobie/Phoebe B c1846 Ireland M SHAW Thomas Edward 31st October 1867 Fremantle Western Australia D 23 July 1927 East Fremantle WA bur Karrakatta cemetery Mary B c1849 B Deptford, Kent, England M Richard William Vincent 9 December 1874 Fremantle WA D 7 September 1926 Cottesloe Western Australia Bur Karrakatta Anglican Cemetery Margaret Lucinda (Lucy) B 1856 Fremantle Western Australia M BELL James 1886 Fremantle Western Australia D 1900 Rockingham Western Australia |
| Father of 1st wife Date/Place of Birth | Not yet known |
| Mother of 1st wife Date/Place of Birth Marriage | Not yet known |
| Land Grants Western Australia | None |
| Occupation after Arrival | Night warder Convict Establishment 3 November 1851 In charge Lunatic Asylum Fremantle, 1859-1872 Wife Matron 1 June 1859-30 June 1872 |
| Newspaper Articles | Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 27 November 1867 page 2 Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 2nd December 1868 page 3Injury to Robert Marriage of Phoebe The Herald Saturday 24 May 1873 page 2 Death notice of Mary Daily News Thursday 24 February 1887 page 3 Death notice of Robert Also The Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 23 February 1887 page 5 Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 23 December 1874 page 2 Marriage of Mary Jane The Herald Saturday 15 March 1879 page 3 Passenger list of the Rosette (There are sundry Newspaper accounts of the loss of the Rosette.) Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 12 October 1864 page 2 Departure John and James on Sea Ripple Evening Journal Wednesday 17th January 1883 page 2 Death of James Ramsay Macleay Argus Tuesday 1 November 1927 page 3 Obituary William Ramsay |
| Departure from Western Australia | John and James Ramsay departed WA on the Sea Ripple 1864 |
| Date/Place of Death/Burial | 12th February 1887 Fremantle Western Australia Not yet known |
| Date/Place of Death/Burial Wife | 17th May 1873 Fremantle Western Australia Not yet known |
| Will or Probate | SROWA Cons 3458/1887/128 Thomas Edward Shaw. Master Mariner, the husband of Phoebe Shaw eldest daughter of Robert Ramsey applied for Letters of Administration on behalf of the 2 sons and 3 daughters of the deceased. The estate was valued as less than fifty pounds. |
| Further Information | British Army, Worldwide Index: 1841 Robert Ramsey, Corporal 9th Bn Royal Artillery 3rd Company location Gibraltar. Discharge due to chronic rheumatism and deafness in right ear. In the 1851 census Robert is living with his wife and family at 9 New Row, St. Paul’s Deptford, Greenwich, Kent. Robert is age 44 a pensioner born Ireland as was his wife Mary age 40. Their children are Robert age 15, William age 12, and James age 10 all born Gibraltar. John age 7 was born Woolwich, Kent , Phebe(sic) age 4 born Ireland and Mary age 1 was born at Deptford, Kent, England Mary Ramsay was one of the women who helped Catherine Gorman wife of EPG John Gorman during the birth of her twins and helped look after the babies. Two of the Ramsay boys did not receive rations for the voyage. 3rd November 1872 Robert Ramsay received a pension of £63/13/- for his service in the CE. Mary received £13/17/- . Full account of their careers is in Warders and Gaolers (David J Barker 2000) page 176 Robert was attacked by one of the inmates of the asylum causing severe injury on 25th November 1868. Robert was the son of another soldier William Ramsey. In 1864 James George Ramsay and wife Mary had their first child, Amy Phoebe Ramsay. Shortly after the birth of Amy all 3 sailed aboard the Sea Ripple from Fremantle to Adelaide, accompanied by James’ younger brother John. James and Mary settled at Port Adelaide and between 1866 and 1881 had at least 6 further children. James George Ramsay was a carpenter and was unfortunately killed at only 42 years of age when caught in a large whirlwind while erecting a roof on a building in Hindmarsh Square. The storm caused the roof to collapse and James fell to his death. This Additional information supplied by descendant Mr Greg WhyteDownload Robert Ramsay EPG_2008_-Vol_9_4_Oct |