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RAMSAY – Robert Royal Artillery 9th Battery

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Royal Artillery Badge
Name RAMSAY – Robert
Regiment (s)Royal Artillery 9th Battalion
Regiment Number (s)
Date/Age/Place/Trade or
Profession at Attestation
22nd February 1825 / 18 years / Athlone Roscommon Ireland
Labourer
Description – Height
Complexion/Eyes/Hair/Scars
5 Ft 8½ in
Brown / Black / Dark / None
Overseas Service/DurationGibraltar – 7 years 11 months
West Indies – 4 years 1 month
Length of Service22 years 194 days
Rank/Date/Place of DischargeSergeant / 13th July 1847 / Woolwich Kent England
Campaign MedalsNone
Intended Residence at
Discharge
Deptford Kent England
Pension Districts1847 Deptford
1851 Western Australia
Pension Paid1/10d per diem
Date of Departure and Place
England or Ireland
16th July 1851 Plymouth England
Ship and Date of Arrival
Western Australia
MINDEN 14th October 1851
Date/Place of Birthc1807 Kiltown Roscommon Ireland
Date/Place of BaptismNot yet known
Father
Date/Place of Birth
RAMSEY William
C 1778
Mother
Date/Place of Birth
Marriage
WHITE Janet
C 1779
SiblingsNot yet known
1st Wife
Date of Birth or Baptism
WILSON Mary Jane
c 1813 Ireland
Date/Place of Marriage1833 Armagh Ireland
Children by 1st WifeRobert B c1836 Gibraltar
D Lost at sea 27 January 1879 off NW coast in the Rosette
William B c1838 Gibraltar
M KILLION Elizabeth 1865 McLeay River, Kempsey New South Wales
D 24 October 1927 Kempsey bur West Kempsey Cemetery
James George B c1841 Gibraltar
M BARNES Mary 17 September 1861, Fremantle Congregational Chapel
D 17th January 1883 Adelaide, South Australia
See further information
John B c1843 Woolwich, Kent England
M BARR Elizabeth South Melbourne Vic
D 17 February 1927 age 84 Buried Box hill Cemetery
Phobie/Phoebe B c1846 Ireland
M SHAW Thomas Edward 31st October 1867 Fremantle Western Australia
D 23 July 1927 East Fremantle WA bur Karrakatta cemetery
Mary B c1849 B Deptford, Kent, England
M Richard William Vincent 9 December 1874 Fremantle WA
D 7 September 1926 Cottesloe Western Australia
Bur Karrakatta Anglican Cemetery
Margaret Lucinda (Lucy) B 1856 Fremantle Western Australia
M BELL James 1886 Fremantle Western Australia
D 1900 Rockingham Western Australia
Father of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Mother of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Marriage
Not yet known
Land Grants Western
Australia
None
Occupation after
Arrival
Night warder Convict Establishment 3 November 1851
In charge Lunatic Asylum Fremantle, 1859-1872
Wife Matron 1 June 1859-30 June 1872
Newspaper ArticlesInquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 27 November 1867 page 2
Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 2nd December 1868 page 3Injury to Robert
Marriage of Phoebe
The Herald Saturday 24 May 1873 page 2 Death notice of Mary
Daily News Thursday 24 February 1887 page 3 Death notice of Robert
Also The Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 23 February 1887 page 5
Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 23 December 1874 page 2 Marriage of Mary Jane
The Herald Saturday 15 March 1879 page 3 Passenger list of the Rosette (There are sundry Newspaper accounts of the loss of the Rosette.)
Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 12 October 1864 page 2 Departure John and James on Sea Ripple
Evening Journal Wednesday 17th January 1883 page 2 Death of James Ramsay
Macleay Argus Tuesday 1 November 1927 page 3 Obituary William Ramsay
Departure from Western
Australia
John and James Ramsay departed WA on the Sea Ripple 1864
Date/Place of Death/Burial12th February 1887 Fremantle Western Australia
Not yet known
Date/Place of Death/Burial
Wife
17th May 1873 Fremantle Western Australia
Not yet known
Will or ProbateSROWA Cons 3458/1887/128
Thomas Edward Shaw. Master Mariner, the husband of Phoebe Shaw eldest daughter of Robert Ramsey applied for Letters of Administration on behalf of the 2 sons and 3 daughters of the deceased. The estate was valued as less than fifty pounds.
Further InformationBritish Army, Worldwide Index:
1841 Robert Ramsey, Corporal 9th Bn Royal Artillery 3rd Company location Gibraltar.
Discharge due to chronic rheumatism and deafness in right ear.
In the 1851 census Robert is living with his wife and family at 9 New Row, St. Paul’s Deptford, Greenwich, Kent.
Robert is age 44 a pensioner born Ireland as was his wife Mary age 40.
Their children are Robert age 15, William age 12, and James age 10 all born Gibraltar. John age 7 was born Woolwich, Kent , Phebe(sic) age 4 born Ireland and Mary age 1 was born at Deptford, Kent, England
Mary Ramsay was one of the women who helped Catherine Gorman wife of EPG John Gorman during the birth of her twins and helped look after the babies.
Two of the Ramsay boys did not receive rations for the voyage.
3rd November 1872 Robert Ramsay received a pension of £63/13/- for his service in the CE. Mary received £13/17/- . Full account of their careers is in Warders and Gaolers (David J Barker 2000) page 176
Robert was attacked by one of the inmates of the asylum causing severe injury on 25th November 1868.
Robert was the son of another soldier William Ramsey.
In 1864 James George Ramsay and wife Mary had their first child, Amy Phoebe Ramsay. Shortly after the birth of Amy all 3 sailed aboard the Sea Ripple from Fremantle to Adelaide, accompanied by James’ younger brother John. James and Mary settled at Port Adelaide and between 1866 and 1881 had at least 6 further children. James George Ramsay was a carpenter and was unfortunately killed at only 42 years of age when caught in a large whirlwind while erecting a roof on a building in Hindmarsh Square. The storm caused the roof to collapse and James fell to his death.
This Additional information supplied by descendant Mr Greg WhyteDownload Robert Ramsay EPG_2008_-Vol_9_4_Oct