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Royal Artillery Badge
British Crimea Medal (Alma Balaclava Inkerman Sebastopol Clasps)
Turkish Crimea Medal
Legion d’Honeur medal
Land Grant
NameVANCE – John
Regiment (s)Royal Artillery 4th & 12th battalions, Royal Artillery Coastal Brigade
Regiment Number (s) 1141
Date/Age/Place/Trade or
Profession at Attestation
3rd August 1841 / 18 years 5 months / Lisburn Antrim Ireland
Helper to a Smith
Description – Height
5 Ft 7½ in
Dark / Grey / Dark / None
Overseas Service/DurationGibraltar – 6 years 1 month
Turkey and Crimea – 1 year 10 months
Length of Service21 years 16 days
Rank/Date/Place of DischargeGunner / 19th August 1862 / Woolwich Kent England
Campaign MedalsCrimean War Medal with Alma Inkerman Balaklava and Sebastopol clasps
French Military War Medal
Turkish Crimean War Medal
Intended Residence at
Woolwich Kent England
Pension Districts1862 1st East London
1864 Woolwich
1865 Tilbury
1865-1891 Western Australia
Pension Paid1/0d per diem
1887 Increased to 1/2d per diem for service in Enrolled Force
Date of Departure and Place
England or Ireland
26th May 1865 Portland England
Ship and Date of Arrival
Western Australia
RACEHORSE 10th August 1865
Date/Place of Birthc1823 Belfast Antrim Ireland
Date/Place of BaptismNot yet known
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
SiblingsNot yet known
1st Wife
Date of Birth or Baptism
B c1825 Belfast Antrim Ireland
Date/Place of Marriage25th November 1850 Ireland
Children by 1st WifeNone known
Father of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Mother of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Land Grants Western
Cockburn Sound at Willagee Swamp Lot 228
20 acres
Assigned 26 November 1880
Title application 19 February 1885 Title 6/13
Occupation after
Newspaper ArticlesThe W.A. Record Thursday 29 January 1891 page 8
Death of John Vance
The Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday
11 January 1893 page 2 Injury to Margaret Vance
Departure from Western
Not applicable
Date/Place of Death/Burial20th January 1891 York Western Australia
Not yet known
Date/Place of Death/Burial
17 January 1893 Colonial Hospital Perth WA
Bur 18 January 1893 East Perth Cemetery WA
Will or ProbateNone known
Further InformationBritish Army, Worldwide Index:
1851 John Vance 4th Battalion location Charlemont Ireland
1861 John Vance 1141 Coastal brigade RA location Woolwich; Manchester; Folkestone; Portsmouth; Devonport; Leith Fort; Tower of London; Pigeon House Fort (Dublin); Spike Island
Discharge: At his own request having served 21years.
In the 1861 Census John and Margaret are living at 2 Sandhills, Worth, Eastry, Kent with his regiment. John is age 38 a gunner with the Royal Artillery born Belfast, Ireland as is his wife Margaret, aged 36. There are no children although there is a visitor a single woman Jane Ferres living with them who was also born Belfast Ireland.
Margaret Vance’s 1st husband was James EVERALL they married 16th May 1848 Ireland (no place given)
For a man whose conduct was stated at his discharge as being exemplary it is surprising that over the years both John and Margaret Vance were charged with a variety of small misdemeanours as well as fishing illegally off Rottnest, using insulting language and stealing various small objects for which they were usually fined or subjected to short periods of incarceration. When imprisoned on 15th January 1869 for one month for ‘unlawful possession of a hat’ his prison register record shows he was Protestant, and could read and write.
In 1882 John was charged with stealing 80 pounds of meal, grapes, 10 pounds of potatoes and three soup plates from his master and sentenced to four months imprisonment with hard labour. After inquiry by the Treasury Solicitor it was decided that during the time of his imprisonment half his pension was forfeited and the remainder paid to his wife.
In January 1893 Margaret Vance aged 70 was working as a laundress at York when her knee was fractured by a kick from a horse. She was treated at the York hospital but accidentally suffered serious burns and was transferred to Perth hospital where she subsequently died.
On 6th January 1891 the Resident Magistrate, York, requested the admission of John Vance to the Mt Eliza Depot his pension of five pound six shilling and six pence a quarter to pay for the privilege. Approved 9th January 1891, however as he died at York Hospital from cancer of the throat on the 20th January it looks as if he still living there at the time.