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ODGERS – John 85th Regiment

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85th Regiment
NameODGERS – John
Regiment (s)85th Regiment
Regiment Number (s) 1588
Date/Age/Place/Trade or
Profession at Attestation
24th August 1839 / 17 years 8 months / Plymouth Devon England
Copper miner
Description – Height
5Ft 6½ in
Pale / Hazel / Brown / None
Overseas Service/DurationNorth America – 3 years 5 months
West Indies – 2 years 5 months
Length of Service14 years 325 days
Rank/Date/Place of DischargeCorporal / 24th October 1854 / Chatham Kent England
Campaign MedalsNone
Intended Residence at
Pension Districts1854 Bristol
July 1857 – September 1880 Western Australia
1881 South Australia (no pension details)
Pension Paid9d per diem: originally for 3 years after discharge but received permanent pension in 1857 in Western Australia
May 1874 pension increased to 1/3d for service to Enrolled Force
Date of Departure and Place
England or Ireland
19th March 1857 London England
Ship and Date of Arrival
Western Australia
CLARA 3rd July 1857
Date/Place of Birth1821 Cornwall England
Date/Place of Baptism1st July 1821 St Clement Cornwall England
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
SiblingsNot yet known
1st Wife
Date of Birth or Baptism
LYNCH Honora (Ann)
B c1831 Limerick Ireland
Date/Place of Marriage25th July 1846 Limerick Ireland
Children by 1st WifeWilliam B 1849 Ireland
Thomas B 1850 Ireland
D 1924 Ballarat Victoria aged 74 years
John B c1853 unknown location
M 1st CANTWELL Mary Joseph 28th November 1876 Fremantle Western Australia
M 2nd MOULAN Norah 1907 Perth Western Australia
D 28th May 1908 East Perth Western Australia
Henry B registered 3rd Qtr 1856 Tavistock Devon
Elizabeth B 4 October 1858 Fremantle WA (FS)
Elizabeth B 4 December 1859 Fremantle WA (FS)
Possible marriage GAY William Henry Richard 9th January 1881
Charles B 24 May 1861 Fremantle WA (FS)
Mary Jane B c1863 Western Australia
M FOHRMAN John 14th June 1886 Glanville South Australia
D 9th March 1898 Port Adelaide South Australia
Selina B 10th October 1866 Fremantle Western Australia (FS)
M PENHALL Thomas 2 December 1893
D 14th September 1930 Mile End Parkside Norwood South Australia
Father of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Mother of 1st wife
Date/Place of Birth
Not yet known
Land Grants Western
North Fremantle P 26 Swan Street North Fremantle
1 acre Assigned 27 April 1866 Title Application 7 August 1866 Title 2235
Occupation after
His obituary said he was a warder but there is no entry for him in Warders and Gaolers
Town Hall Porter Hindmarsh South Australia
Newspaper ArticlesChronicle (Adelaide) 15th August 1896 page 9 Golden wedding anniversary
The Advertiser Saturday 12th March 1898 page 6 Death notice Mary Jane Fohrman
Advertiser (Adelaide) Monday 11th December 1905 page 6
The Advertiser 25th March 1907 page 6 Obituary John Odgers Also slightly different one in Adelaide Observer Saturday 30th March 1907 page 37
West Australian Saturday 30th May 1908
Departure from Western
Not yet known
Date/Place of Death/Burial24th March 1907 Brompton Adelaide South Australia
Buried West Terrace Cemetery
Date/Place of Death/Burial
4th May 1907 Brompton Adelaide South Australia
Buried West Terrace Cemetery
Will or ProbateNone known
Further InformationJBritish Army Worldwide Index
1841 John Odgers 1588 Private 85th Foot Location Montreal Canada
1851 John Odgers 1588 Corporal 85th Location Preston
Discharge due to rupture on right side (Hernia)
1851 Census HO 107/2268/624/48 Fulwood Barracks Preston Lancashire

    1. John Odgers Soldier, married age 29 Corporal born Devon St. Clements
    2. Norah Odgers wife married age 23 born Ireland
    3. William Odgers son age 2 born Ireland
    4. Thomas Odgers son 11 months born Ireland

On 25th January 1861 John Odgers nominated his sister-in-law Mary Lynch as a Government immigrant, she was a single woman age 22 years living at No 5 Thompson Terrace Bristol at the time.
Charles Odgers was admitted to the Royal Adelaide Hospital on 13 October 1893 age 29, he was a single man RC and living at Hindmarsh a labourer born Western Australia
Elizabeth was also admitted to the hospital on 26 March 1879 age 21, single , RC, living Archer Street occupation servant born Western Australia and had arrived on the Otway 8 months previously see Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 31 July 1878 page 2 Otway passenger Miss Odgers
Henry Odgers was admitted on 6 February 1884 age 27, married RC was living at Hindmarsh and a labourer. He said he was born at Dartmoor and had been in the Colony for 26 years and arrived on the Clara.
A newspaper article on the Golden wedding anniversary of John and Honora (Chronicle 15th August 1896) stated that John Odgers was with the 19th regiment and had fought in the Crimean war however our research shows he was in the 85th Regiment throughout his military career furthermore he said he was employed by the Convict establishment whereas we have no record of him ever being employed as a warder. All the following newspaper articles used this as a source for their information.
John Odgers (Jnr) and his second wife Norah Moulan were involved in a tragic murder suicide in East Perth Western Australia extensive newspaper coverage