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| Name | ODGERS – John |
|---|---|
| Regiment (s) | 85th Regiment |
| Regiment Number (s) | 1588 |
| Date/Age/Place/Trade or Profession at Attestation | 24th August 1839 / 17 years 8 months / Plymouth Devon England Copper miner |
| Description – Height Complexion/Eyes/Hair/Scars | 5Ft 6½ in Pale / Hazel / Brown / None |
| Overseas Service/Duration | North America – 3 years 5 months West Indies – 2 years 5 months |
| Length of Service | 14 years 325 days |
| Rank/Date/Place of Discharge | Corporal / 24th October 1854 / Chatham Kent England |
| Campaign Medals | None |
| Intended Residence at Discharge | Bristol |
| Pension Districts | 1854 Bristol July 1857 – September 1880 Western Australia 1881 South Australia (no pension details) |
| Pension Paid | 9d per diem: originally for 3 years after discharge but received permanent pension in 1857 in Western Australia May 1874 pension increased to 1/3d for service to Enrolled Force |
| Date of Departure and Place England or Ireland | 19th March 1857 London England |
| Ship and Date of Arrival Western Australia | CLARA 3rd July 1857 |
| Date/Place of Birth | 1821 Cornwall England |
| Date/Place of Baptism | 1st July 1821 St Clement Cornwall England |
| Father Date/Place of Birth | Not yet known |
| Mother Date/Place of Birth Marriage | Not yet known |
| Siblings | Not yet known |
| 1st Wife Date of Birth or Baptism | LYNCH Honora (Ann) B c1831 Limerick Ireland |
| Date/Place of Marriage | 25th July 1846 St. Michael, Limerick Ireland |
| Children by 1st Wife | William B 1849 Ireland (Possible) D 24th May 1927 age 78, single, Hindmarsh, South Australia. Thomas B 1850 Ireland M WATKINS Bridget Elizabeth 1887 Victoria, Australia D 1924 Ballarat Victoria aged 74 years Bur 4th December 1924 Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria, Australia John B 28th April 1852 Portsea, Hampshire, England Bap 20th June 1852 St. Thomas Portsmouth, Hampshire England M 1st CANTWELL Mary Joseph 28th November 1876 Fremantle Western Australia M 2nd MOULAN Norah 1907 Perth Western Australia D 28th May 1908 East Perth Western Australia Henry B 24 August 1856 Devon, England Bap September 1856 Cathedral Church of Saints Mary and Boniface Plymouth Devon, England Elizabeth B 4 October 1858 Fremantle WA (FS) Elizabeth B 4 December 1859 Fremantle WA (FS) M GAY William Henry Richard 9th January 1881 D Unknown between 1896 and 1908 when William remarried in Victoria Charles B 24 May 1861 Fremantle WA (FS) D 1938 Broken Hill New South Wales Australia Bur Broken Hill Cemetery 25th January 1938 Mary Jane B c1863 Western Australia M FOHRMAN John 14th June 1886 Glanville South Australia D 9th March 1898 Port Adelaide South Australia Selina B 10th October 1866 Fremantle Western Australia (FS) M PENHALL Thomas 2 December 1893 D 14th September 1930 Mile End Parkside Norwood South Australia |
| Father of 1st wife Date/Place of Birth | Not yet known |
| Mother of 1st wife Date/Place of Birth Marriage | Not yet known |
| Land Grants Western Australia | North Fremantle P 26 Swan Street North Fremantle 1 acre Assigned 27 April 1866 Title Application 7 August 1866 Title 2235 |
| Occupation after Arrival | His obituary said he was a warder but there is no entry for him in Warders and Gaolers Town Hall Porter Hindmarsh South Australia |
| Newspaper Articles | Chronicle (Adelaide) 15th August 1896 page 9 Golden wedding anniversary The Advertiser Saturday 12th March 1898 page 6 Death notice Mary Jane Fohrman Advertiser (Adelaide) Monday 11th December 1905 page 6 The Advertiser 25th March 1907 page 6 Obituary John Odgers Also slightly different one in Adelaide Observer Saturday 30th March 1907 page 37 West Australian Saturday 30th May 1908 |
| Departure from Western Australia | Not yet known |
| Date/Place of Death/Burial | 24th March 1907 Brompton Adelaide South Australia Buried West Terrace Cemetery |
| Date/Place of Death/Burial Wife | 4th May 1907 Brompton Adelaide South Australia Buried West Terrace Cemetery |
| Will or Probate | None known |
| Further Information | British Army Worldwide Index 1841 John Odgers 1588 Private 85th Foot Location Montreal Canada 1851 John Odgers 1588 Corporal 85th Location Preston Discharge due to rupture on right side (Hernia) In the 1851 Census (HO 107/2268/624/48) Lancashire Corporal John Odgers, age 29, born St. Clements, Devon is with his regiment living at the Fulwood Barracks, Preston, as is his wife Norah, age 23, and children William age 2 and Thomas age 11 months, all born Ireland On 25th January 1861 John Odgers nominated his sister-in-law Mary Lynch as a Government immigrant, she was a single woman age 22 years living at No 5 Thompson Terrace Bristol at the time. Charles Odgers was admitted to the Royal Adelaide Hospital on 13 October 1893 age 29, he was a single man RC and living at Hindmarsh a labourer born Western Australia Elizabeth was also admitted to the hospital on 26 March 1879 age 21, single , RC, living Archer Street occupation servant born Western Australia and had arrived on the Otway 8 months previously see Inquirer and Commercial News Wednesday 31 July 1878 page 2 Otway passenger Miss Odgers Henry Odgers was admitted on 6 February 1884 age 27, married RC was living at Hindmarsh and a labourer. He said he was born at Dartmoor and had been in the Colony for 26 years and arrived on the Clara. A newspaper article on the Golden wedding anniversary of John and Honora (Chronicle 15th August 1896) stated he was born 2nd December 1829 at Truro Cornwall. Erroneously it also said John Odgers was with the 19th regiment and had fought in the Crimean war however our research shows he was in the 85th Regiment throughout his military career, furthermore, it also said he was employed by the Convict establishment whereas we have no record of him ever being employed as a warder although his son John age 25 applied for a position in either the police force or as a warder on 8th February 1878, employed as an assistant warder at Rottnest. All the later newspaper articles used this article as a source for their information. John Odgers (Jnr) and his second wife Norah Moulan were involved in a tragic murder suicide in East Perth Western Australia extensive newspaper coverage. |